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Jan Olof Bengtsson

Spirituality ǀ Arts & Humanities ǀ Europe

Diskussion mellan Rupert Spira och Bernardo Kastrup från 2022 (tack till viktige zen-buddhisten och politiske idédebattören Emil Eldebrink för tips):



Så här kan, inte minst med avseende på fenomenvärldens natur (inklusive det mänskliga psykofysiska komplexet, dess sinnen, själva hjärnan), i sak den konsekventa, i boströmsk mening absoluta och “rena” typen av idealism försvaras idag.


Spira är ickedualistisk andlig lärare i Oxford; Kastrup har från en vetenskaplig bakgrund utvecklats till filosof (se tidigare inlägg i idealismkategorin med diskussion om honom och rekommendationer av några av hans böcker, se länkar nedan).


Beskrivningen från Spiras YouTube-kanal:


Is everything in the world made of matter or consciousness? What exactly are matter and consciousness? Rupert Spira joins Bernardo Kastrup, scientist and author, in a deep exploration of science and spirituality and how they inevitably meet on the same path to truth.


The conversation proves that anyone, from any background, can come to the same universal understanding that non-duality teaches; that peace and happiness is who we truly are.


Rupert came to this understanding through 40 years of spiritual practice in the vedantic and tantric traditions, while Bernardo studied the professional fields of computer science and engineering.


Moderated by Simon Mundie, the discussion covers various topics as Rupert and Bernardo dissect solipsism, idealism and materialism. Through it all, they both came to the same recognition which is that peace and love surpasses all understanding, and is the very nature of everyone and everything.


Timestamps:


00:00 How Rupert and Bernardo Met 02:33 Spiritual and Scientific Backgrounds Meet 08:04 Physics, Metaphysics, Perennial and Non-Dual Understandings 11:00 What is Reality? 14:49 Sense Perceptions and Experiencing 24:30 Solipsism, Idealism, and Materialism 27:48 Everything is in Consciousness 34:50 What is Consciousness? 40:00 What is Matter? 46:30 Qualities of Experience 50:40 Science and the Church 56:20 Learning From Suffering 1:01:00 The Peace That Passeth All Understandings 1:10:00 Non Dual Understanding and Misconceptions 1:16:20 The Purpose of Life 1:26:20 Refining Your Life Through Non Duality 1:28:00 What is Wrong With Materialism? 1:29:10 The Brain, The Mind, and Individuality 1:38:00 Individual vs The Ego 1:43:00 Who Am I? Our True Identity 1:47:00 What Is Accurate About Idealism? 1:52:21 Phenomenal Consciousness vs Meta-Consciousness 1:59:00 Dissociative Identity Disorder 2:05:00 Three Consequences of the Non-Dual Understanding 2:09:40 Death, Associations and Dreams 2:17:00 The Result of the Non Duality









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Den av Blavatsky och teosofin starkt påverkade amerikanske esoterikern, författaren till The Secret Teachings of All Ages (1928) och grundaren av The Philosophical Research Society i Los Angeles, som behandlades av Mitch Horowitz i detta föredrag.


Karaktäristiskt nog använde Hall, som Wikipedia tycks korrekt framställa det (jag har själv inte närmare studerat Hall, och har såtillvida ingen särskild anledning att skriva om just honom – vad jag gör här, och anser vara motiverat att göra, är bara att jag noterar hans existens och den betydelse den numera verkar anses ha haft), sin esoterism för utformnigen av ett eget bidrag till föreställnigen om den amerikanska exceptionalismen:


“In 1942, Hall spoke to a large audience at Carnegie Hall, on ‘The Secret Destiny of America,’ which later became a book of the same title. Through a series of stories, his book alleged that a secret order of philosophers created the idea of America as a country based on religious freedom and self-governance. In one of the stories that Hall cites as evidence of America’s exceptionalism, he claims that an angel was present at the signing of the Declaration of Independence, and inspiring them with God’s words. President Ronald Reagan is reported to have adopted ideas and phrasing from The Secret Destiny of America (1944) in his speeches and essays for his allegorical use of the City upon a Hill. Historian Mitch Horowitz has brought attention specifically to Reagan telling the story of an ‘unknown speaker’ at the signing of the Declaration of Independence and America’s assignation ‘to fulfill a mission to advance man a further step in his climb from the swamps.’


Hall returned in 1945 for another well-attended lecture at Carnegie Hall, titled: ‘Plato’s Prophecy of Worldwide Democracy’.”


Han sägs också ha varit “on friendly terms” med Reagan, som, “according to Hall’s fellow lecturer at the Philosophical Research Society, Stephan A. Hoeller, even visited him at his office.” 


Liksom Henry Wallace visar Hall således nödvändigheten att med adekvata filosofiska och historiska instrument – och inte bara de babbittska, även Guénons teosofikritik skjuter direkt in sig på de här manifesterade tendenserna – djupanalysera den karaktäristiska helhetliga åskådning som under 1900-talet tog form i väst i mötet mellan den esoförstådda andligheten och den samtida politiken och allmänkulturella och sociala sensibiliteten.

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Jan Olof Bengtsson

DPhil (Oxon)

"A Self-realized being cannot help benefiting the world. His very existence is the highest good."

Ramana Maharshi

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